Overhaul: Logie Awards unveil radical voting process

  • Networks to submit 5 names for each Popular category
  • Nominees to be determined by factoring in TV Ratings, Social Content, Industry Judges
  • Public to choose winners, voting expands to 5 weeks
  • New category introduced: Most Popular Australian Actor or Actress in an International Program.

TV Week has announced its biggest change to Logie Awards voting in decades.

Networks, including Streaming platforms, will now be invited to submit five candidates for all Popular categories -including the Gold Logie.

Nominees will then be determined taking into account TV Ratings, Social Media ratings and Industry Judges. There will be 6 nominees in each Popular category, and 7 for Gold.

The public will still choose each winner.

When nominees are announced, a 5 week voting period opens immediately running right up to Logie night.

The move overhauls the traditional nominee process which has seen lists of around 90 performers culled by the public, and follows ongoing criticism about social media campaigns. But it crucially throws the onus onto networks to determine their candidates first, potentially triggering all kinds of internal jockeying and talent scrambling.

TV Week insists the changes have been made with the support of networks.

There is also one new category being introduced: Most Popular Australian Actor or Actress in an International Program.

Outstanding categories will continue with jury panels.

TV Week Editor Thomas Woodgate spoke to TV Tonight about the ramifications and practicalities.

Why the change?

“Every year we look at what we could improve, what we might be able to do better, changes we would like to make. For example last year, we introduced the Outstanding Reality award for the first time, and that was in reaction to what was happening in the industry.

“We wanted to look at ways that we can make the whole process more streamlined, make it more engaging, make it simpler for the audience.”

How was this strategy determined? 

“This is a TV Week initiative.

“But we were in consultation with the networks. They’ve been really supportive of the change, which is great. And at the end of the day the TV Week Logies is an inclusive event for all networks.

“We’ve really enjoyed seeing in that one week period, people campaigning and canvassing for votes, getting fired up about the awards. So by extending that one week to five, I’m hoping people really getting behind the nominees and engage more.”

What defines Popularity in 2020?

“How we judge the popularity of a TV show is so different now to what it was 5 to 10 years ago. People vote with their eyeballs and their thumbs. From a network standpoint, they are looking at many factors, and we are as well now. We cannot shy away from what is now considered ‘Popular.’ It is the ratings, it is how they interact on social media.

“But the most Popular awards -including the Gold- are voted for by the public….not me, not TV Week.”

Will we still see heavy campaigning by networks and nominees?

“I think it’s going to be even better for the networks, the talent, the shows. They’re going to have five weeks to really get out there and engage with the public. Networks will be notified of their nominations probably around a week or two before we announce them.

“If you’re able to canvas through radio and social media, that by definition proves and increases how we define ‘Popularity.’ But it’s not the sole factor behind anyone’s popularity. It’s not just about ratings. It’s not just about social media. It’s not just about what the experts think. It’s a combination of all three of those things, which is why we’re so excited.”

Is this about fixing a process hijacked by social media?

“We’ve been happy with how the voting process has been conducted. It’s not about fixing anything, it’s about how can we evolve the process? How can we look to create better engagement?”

Which Networks / Streaming platforms can submit?

“It is basically every TV network and includes Streaming as well. Netflix, Stan and the like are welcome to submit as well. So you’re looking at Seven, Nine, 10, ABC, SBS, Foxtel and streaming networks.”

How are TV Ratings included, and what are Social Content ratings?

“The networks are basically taking ownership of the first step to say, ‘Here are our five  nominees.’

“So the networks get to say, ‘This is who we would like to put forward.’

“From there it then goes through a process.

“The ratings provided by OzTAM take in 28 day Consolidated viewing figures. So again it’s looking to reflect the viewing habits of the public. The Nielsen social content ratings are an independent third party and that takes into account things like organic hashtags, social hashtags, show names, character names. So that’s their domain. And the panel of experts is much the same way that we conduct with the Outstanding awards.

“All three get put in and then a ranking system ends up spitting out the six nominees.”

If TV Ratings are now a factor how do shows outside of primetime compete fairly? And Streaming doesn’t disclose their numbers?

“A show won’t be disadvantaged purely because their Overnight numbers are lower than another. The 28 day Consolidated viewing can change that. The whole process is designed to make things level and fair.

“If ratings are less for one show than they are for another, it doesn’t mean it has no chance of being nominated. Not at all. It’s a combination of the three.

“In terms of Streaming we know they won’t be supply them, so obviously that’s going to put them in a disadvantage against others that will have data across all three. But we still invite Streaming to get involved for our most Popular awards if they would like to be involved.

“It will only determine the nominees not a winner. So if someone’s rating 2 million a night, and someone’s rating half of that it doesn’t mean the one who has 2 million is now going to win. It means they’ll score highly in one of the three, and it depends on how the other 2 do.”

But social media chatter can also be negative and your awards are about Most Popular?

“We will, in conjunction with Nielsen, take due diligence to remove negative sentiments. If we’re talking about popularity online, people are spoken about who maybe aren’t so popular. We will definitely be doing all we can to ensure that it is about the positive sentiment.”

Are Gold Logie nominees still derived from the names put forward in Actor / Actress / Presenter categories?

“It’s a separate award. So networks can submit someone in Most Popular category and Gold, or maybe they just submit them in Gold only. It’s completely up to the networks who they wish to submit.”

Have you effectively unleashed internal bunfights within networks?

“I think it’s great networks get to submit a targeted list of candidates for each award. Of course, some will inevitably miss out and it will be difficult for networks to choose, but that’s a result of having such a thriving industry and so much amazing, diverse talent.”

Did you consider expanding the Hall of Fame?

“We didn’t make any changes to Hall of Fame this year. But I think there’s definitely room for us to continue looking at that. We’re not afraid to make changes, and we’re not afraid to look at things.”

Nominees announced Sunday May 24.
TV Week Logies Awards Sunday June 28 on Nine.

Is the new Logie voting system better or worse?

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13 Comments:

  1. Ugh MAFS doesn’t deserve any more glory than what it is currently getting ? This is just another way to make it sound good ? Oh and just who is the host broadcaster of the Logies again, conveniently…

  2. Dylan Alcott won New Talent last year for his role on The Set. If this new criteria was in effect then, he wouldn’t have even been nominated. Television ratings are now a criteria (and The Set didn’t set the ratings world on fire).

    So we don’t get to vote for anyone on SBS now. Apart from, say, the various Eurovision Specials, nothing else rates highly on SBS. Clear to say that SBS wont be nominated in the “popular awards” from now on. No newsreaders, actors, the newcomers on The Hunting etc.

    • It’s blatantly unfair now and obviously done to push the commercial free to air networks back into the limelight because they have embarrassingly been getting fewer and fewer nominations.

    • Why can’t an actor be really popular but their show not be the highest rating one on television? Happens all the time. Except now, it probably won’t. All the actors in Home and Away will get an advantage because that show rates higher.

  3. Too me it still sounds a bit uneven. For lower rating channels to have the same amount of talent put forward than the more higher rating channels, it still means that we might have the same issues we had last year with the guy from the abc, who won Gold over more deserving candidates.

  4. Surely the best way to ensure a reputable winner of the Gold Award is to limit it to candidates who have previously won a Most Popular or Outstanding award.

  5. I’m not sure if this system is better than the other one…it’s likely just going to create even larger rivalries between networks with filtering their talent down to five. The past system was still better.

  6. The awards needed some changes to make it easier for viewers to choose their favourites. This change puts all the power in the network’s control and that’s awful.

    Voters wanted more choice, not less. What if there is a really popular show with many popular actors or presenters. This is going to be very limiting.

    Very disappointing, TV Week.

    • I agree. Anything that gives less choice is not better. This is now ‘most popular as deemed by the networks’.

      It won’t be long before we see some glaring omissions. Think of a show like Wentworth – Foxtel will likely have to choose one actress to put forward and spread their remaining four chances across their other dramas.

      They really should get rid of the most popular categories all together if they are going to do this.

  7. What the hell? It’s a very radical change. Why change it completely?

    I understand networks sending 5 programs each for the programs awards (like Most Popular Lifestyle Program, Light Entertainment Program; Public Affairs Program etc), but to choose just 5 personalities for each person-based award? How can they only choose 5 Actor, Actress, Presenter and now the Gold?

    So the networks choose the nominations this year? And the public chooses the winners from the nomination list? Not fair at all…

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