Kylie Gillies tells Kochie: “I’m no namby pamby.”
The Morning Show's Kylie Gillies gives David Koch a serve on air following a debate about child discipline.
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After disagreeing with David Koch during a discussion on Sunrise yesterday, Kylie Gillies said on The Morning Show today that she took exception to some of his remarks.
Yesterday’s discussion on child discipline saw Gillies saying she didn’t want her children put in a ‘naughty corner’ in a childcare centre. She said isolating children as young as 3 was inappropriate.
But Koch suggested she was outsourcing while expecting others to administer her parenting rules.
Today on Sunrise he called her a “mamby pamby” parent.
But Gillies hit back.
“I’m no ‘namby pamby’ I’m just a mum looking out for her kids,” she said.
“In the last few days we’ve seen parents pitted against one another. I believe that should stop. And I believe teachers and parents need to work together. Kochie, maybe colleagues need to too.”
Asked about frosty relations, Sunrise Executive Producer Michael Pell told TV Tonight, “Anyone who thinks all of our hosts agree with each other all the time is living in a fantasy world. We’re a broad church, and this morning, that showed. But to suggest they don’t remain friends is just as fanciful.”
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If anyone bothered to listen to kylie she said that caregivers and parents should work together.
What I Really hate … is when you play clips like above … are forced to endure the advertisement … and then the player freezes and you can’t watch the clip you actually clicked for.
Now for my two cents worth on topic – without having seen the clip.
Naughty corners … label / stereotype kids as being “naughty” … and we all know how a label for a minor indiscretion can stick and promulgate an unfair myth.
Just ask Jackie O.
In some schools … they label the naughty corner as “time out” … a nicely named “sin-bin” … where the kids are encouraged to engage in “responsible thinking time” whilst incarcerated … or to have a good, long hard think about why you just whacked Bob over the head with a Tonka Truck for no good reason … and why they are now being punished with a little “time out”.
Turning a negative into a positive.
Now in my day … a swift kick in the pants got my attention for any indiscretions like above … and my behaviour always improved immeasurably anytime I heard the kitchen utensil draw rattle open in haste.
But hey, let’s not go there!
Oh the joy of confected outrage.
What will Seven Not do for ratings?
To be fair Nine is as bad (just in case you think I’m a Seven hater ;))
David Koch certainly isnt my favourite person in the world, however, he does have a point. Childcare centres and schools need a discipline policy which is effective and realistic. Unfortunately every parents method of discipline cant be catered for in their facilities. Sorry Kylie, but basically, if you dont like the facilities discipline methods than take your child elsewhere.
As some who has connections to the child care industry, all I can say is that ‘time out’ is probably one of hte most effective (but really only) strategies available. Child care workers cannot even grab children anymore, if a child is hitting or even biting another, they are unable to grab them. To put them aside is one of the only viable strategies available. If you dont like it – dont send your children.
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Its over. This morning on the morning show Kylie had her say and she was just hurt that she was called a namby pamby. Kochie came on they hugged and thats it.
I cannot stand David Koch. But he wins this one hands down. Kids need discipline to become functional, successful adults.
@Kenny, thanks – you’ve given me the best laugh of the day. I’d better be off though as I have washing to put on, the house to vacuum, my cocktail dress to put on, and dinner to be ready for my husband when he arrives home, so I can hand him his pipe and slippers after his hard day at work. Ahh, the life of a happy housewife …
First of all David the video didnt work i just got an ad for a new aquisition of 7s. Secondly children should learn right from wrong even at three or depending on the childs intelect. I do agree that keeping someone in a confined area for a prolonged amount of time is not good for their mental health. So what is the answer? well maybe up untill the child reaches leets say 5 the parent should keep repeating to the child what is right and what is wrong, so that the child knows. The first 3 or 5 years of a childs life are the most important its where they learn right from wrong. I thought Kylie’s response was fine she was just expressing her opinion and so was Kochie. I think that in a strange way both are correct in their statements. Children need to be disciplined but when and how?
I don’t know if some of you are aware or not but this is issue is in relation to proposed changes at child care centres – not the Jackie O story. Timing is just coincidental.
I saw this yesterday and im afraid I have to agree with Kochie. He was just trying to point out if you dont discipline children then how will they learn. They get away with a lot. The other 2 guets agreed with Kochie as well.
Nothing else would have been said about it until today when Kochie called Kylie a namby pamby parent. I dont think he had to say that but I do see his point.
It was funny at the end of surnise when kochie had a little thing of flowers and Kylie said I can tell you where to put them in a joking way.
Its just a lttle banter nothing serious. Just agree to disagree.
Kylie was only expressing her thoughts of time out in child care centres, not generally speaking. Good onya Kylie !!! As a woman I commend you !!
“Dance with the Star – go on Kylie, dance with the Star” !!
Honestly, who cares what any of these nitwits thinks about anything?
I have to go and throw up now.
Kylie had the right to respond to Kochie remarks,but must admit l was shocked she did it on air.Everyone has different views .Good on Kylie for speaking up on air.
Good on Kochie. why we have so many brat kids. No discipline. A good smack on the a*se never hurt anyone.
(OMG, wait for the rocks to be thrown at me for this…child abuse…blah, blah.)
Anyway, a really good mother would be home with her kids, cooking and cleaning, not having to work to pay off the mortgage on the McMansion they have to have, and have to have now.
Dr Carr-Greg (who I usually don’t agree with) said this morning that there is 30 years of research showing that ‘time-out’ is a very effective discipline tool.
Isolating a child would be leaving it alone somewhere, not making it stand in the corner for a few minutes.
ryaneco is right, if you want to be all precious about it, raise the kids all on your own.
Ratings stunt
Kochie is the worst when it comes to obvious grabs at publicity. How obvious that it comes just a day after the Jackie O furor. Come on Kochie, we aren’t that stupid.
“Time out”, “naughty corners”, hell even the word “naughty” itself, are all such outdated concepts. We know an awful lot more about raising confident, articulate and smart children these days than we did in the 1950’s. Maybe David Koch should read some modern parenting books and stop watching re-runs of the discredited “Super Nanny”.
Never thought I’d see the day when I’d say this but I agree with Kochie on this. Childcare centres discipline children in a way that they see fit and a way that needs to work, given the number of children they are dealing with. If it involves separating children and sending them to a “naughty” corner for time out, then I see no problem with that. Children do need to be separated from each other at times to bring the disruptive behaviour to an end, to calm them down and above all, discipline them. If Ms Gillies does not like it, she can take her children out of child care.
What’s wrong with a time out? Honestly. If her kid is sitting in therapy in 50 years time and all he has to complain about was how he was put in a time out corner in day care. I’d say he has lead a very charmed life.
Agree with Kochie on this one. Now to look for pigs flying and blue moons… 🙂
I don’t know I’m kinda on Kochies side with this; if you don’t like the way a childcare disciplines children or for that matter think that its not their place to discipline a child then prehaps you’re better off staying home as a parent and not depending on others to raise your child.
Kids need discipline and if they do the wrong then they need to be made aware of that and if a childcares way is to put them in a naughty corner then so be it; it may prevent them doing the same thing again and again whilst at the childcare; the parents can take reign of their children how they wish when they are with the child.
Jackie O coped it and now Kylie Gillies. Instead of being rude and ignorant why couldn’t he say “I respectfully disagree”.
Kochie next time you want to say something engage brain first, then consulate with another person and then mouth.