Late List
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“7:30 means 7:30 not 7:38!”
Tired of your favourite TV show starting late? Now you can name and shame them.
TV Tonight‘s Late List will use crowd-sourcing to detail the shows and the networks that never stick to the clock.
Just enter the information into the fields below with as much info as possible.
In the section marked “Advertised Time” you should complete at least ONE field:
- the time it was advertised in an on-screen Electronic Program Guide
- the time it was published in a Print guide such as newspaper or magazine
- the time it was listed in an Online guide (website / App)
- or the time you saw it advertised in a Promo that ran on the network itself.
This info will be tallied for results which will be published later.
Once you have submitted an entry, you are also invited to leave a Comment below.
The Late List will run as a site trial until the end of the ratings year with a view to remaining a site feature if it proves successful.
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Not sure of the exact time but House Husbands was at least 10 min late last night, good thing I now add 30 min to the end of most ch9 shows.
7 and 9 sure make it difficult if you wanted to watch Homeland last night on 10. 7 started Bones at 8.45 and 9 started House Husbands at 8.41.
The “no show” list – a repeat of House Husbands was scheduled last night at 11.30 on 9. No show.
TEN scheduled the final episode of Class Of. Nope, it was a repeat (or ‘encore’ as they so coyly call it) of Homeland.
Okay I guess, as I missed that on Sunday due to Jack Irish movie. But why would you drop a Final episode of something?
I’m really starting to hate the lot of them.
I noted the finale of Class Of would move to Friday night. So you can still catch it.
Life Unexpected – wasn’t it meant to be on today at 4pm, just before the TEN news?
I switched over late and some cooking show was on, it’s still listed on the EPG and online guides.
I was suprised last night The X Factor actually finished on time which is amazing in itself so W&L and Greys started on time!!
Melrose was meant to start at 10.30. I switched over from Episodes then, but still had to wait over ten minutes. Don’t have the exact time, but I could have watched an extra 10 minutes of Episodes If I had known.
Smash is not listed for Tues 16 Oct in TV Week. Have they bumped it off the network or is it for one week?
Greys is out for 1 week due to US, so Smash is held with it. I need to file it in Programming.
Pertinax, I set my DVR to start recording Suits at 11-45pm, five minutes earlier than the EPG start time, now I know why I missed the beginning. Damn those EPG programmers. They were at it with Hustle this week again too. It started four minutes earlier. I outsmarted them, but I shall have to make an extra special effort for the final episode ever next Saturday.
In Sydney, “Suits” was advertised for 11:45pm. The EPG said 11:50pm and it started at 11:43pm.
Channel 7 don’t care much about “Suits”, and they care even less about people who record it and skip the ads. I guess they are trying to force people to watch it on their website.
Ah, good old 7 with Suits, again. Green Guide scheduled at 11.45 Monday, which I might have managed, but the EPG had it at something like 12.30am, so I gave it a miss, again.
Everyone keeps asking the same question, how can a program build an audience when the networks keep moving them.
Thank goodness for the ABC which sticks with its programming, regardless of ratings. The West Wing was a great example, all over the place at 9, but the ABC took it on (Saturday nights I think) and left it there.
Underbelly – following up I recorded it last night hoping to catch the final only to find it have been swapped for CSI-NY. My PVR says it recorded the UB final and it was listed online as the UB final, who screwed up?
@David Knox
Yes Hot Seat is always going to finish at 5:59pm for the news (and of course networks can run to the second if they choose). But they deliberately stretch it with banter so it is 34 minutes long and starts at 5:25 and the previous news runs straight into it to try and catch and lock in viewers before other shows start at 5:30pm.
Channel 7 responded by doing the same thing with Deal or No Deal.
Underbelly – This is more of a EPG missing show, checked yesterday online for the encore screening of the final, which aired last Monday. There was nothing on the online guides and it said it had been moved to Monday at 10:30. Then at 11:15 last night I noticed it was on. The EPG still has it listed for tonight, hope I don’t miss the final again!
My hubby wanted to watch Anh does Vietnam, so I taped it, however I warned him the channel 7 notoriously runs late, and that I wanted to tape Underground at 8.30. As it turned out he missed the last ten minutes of his program, so I did not miss the beginning of the movie Underground. What is their excuse tonight….it would seem that channel 7 run late every night as a habit.
David, I have just added Strike Back as it was advertised online as starting at 10:30 but has actually started sometime before this (I didn’t know when, so used the EPG time of 9:40).
This could be a glitch either on the online guide or by Ch7 though due to DLS. Although all other stations are (not 100% correct) but closer according to the online guide.
I agree 100% with your comment that the stations can run on time when it suits them 🙁
@battler
And was the editing done by Channel 10?
On many occasions the internationally distributed ep is different from the domestically screened version.
I have seen before where the US network showed a longer double episode but cut the eps down so they could be showed as two separate eps with credits later.
The BBC produces different length domestic and international versions of series. Showtime probably did the same with Episodes.
@Bullswool
Hot Seat and Deal or No Deal both start at around 5:25pm every night. The idea is to catch viewers and hold them through to the News and into the evenings programmes.
Pertinax: Actually the reason they start early is because they must finish bang on 6pm for the News and the regional affiliates. Just more proof they can run to time when it suits them.
Okay, so you keep going on about shows that run late, but what about shows that start early, like Millionaire Hot Seat-One day I was watching The Price Is Right and turned over at 5:30pm to find out it had started ten minutes earlier, on another occasion five minutes earlier.
As noted below, you can enter an early starter if you wish.
Proposed Use it or Lose it Legislation
Rating season opened to 365 days a year to prevent gaming of the system by current FTA networks.
Separate HD sports channel for each commercial network to prevent sports interfering with mainstream and multichannel stations.
For freeview TV when a season commences the network may only change the timeslot for a series once and once only. Shows in production would have a window of up to 5-6 weeks delay to allow for overseas production to “get ahead” of Australian airdates to allow for different US and UK seasons etc.
If the timeslot is changed, episode goes AWOL or an out-of-sequence repeat is inserted, the distributor will withdraw all rights from the offending network and the rights will be given to a commercial FTA station managed either by ABC or SBS (say ABC5 or SBS3) – which will also be obligated to “reset the clock” and show a series in correct sequence from beginning to end until it is completed (first come first serve basis?)
Suggested advertising content of ABC5/SBS3 would only be about 50% of a typical commercial FTA volume. Aforementioned ABC5 or SBS3 profits would be re-distributed on a pro-rata airtime basis to overseas and Australian content owners and content providers, with maybe a fund created to initiate Australian made drama and/or documentaries (optional).
@Bazza/Pertinax – New Girl
The time difference wasn’t the missing credits between e01 and e02 it was aired similarly in the USA. Running both side by side shows it was a number of selective edits.
The commentary that version differences are due to ratings may be sometimes true. From what was deleted it not the case here. Both episodes were also shortened to 20min so its more likely about fitting into a required run time
As a better example Top Gear (UK) was chopped to bits when originally shown on 9. Despite a extended time and accepting its an export version its inferior
The point remains – local FTA is sometimes different and inferior to original programming
@bazza
Of course it is dictated by commercial interests, it is commercial TV! The networks buy the rights to shows and air them for free, and sell advertising to pay for the rights, broadcasting and capital.
There are very strong commercial reasons why you can’t show every US and UK show in spring and summer when a smaller number of people are watching and a lot of the shows will fail. Where it is advantageous for the networks to put shows on in September they will do it.
There are more people who don’t care, and don’t complain about it. And many people who would rather watch US TV shows in contiguous blocks spread out over February to November instead of in bits and pieces in October & November and then again in January to May with repeats in the middle, and every show on at the same time.
You get better continuity, know which shows are worth watching and which aren’t and you can watch more shows without watching any more TV a day.
@New Girl
The networks don’t like to show the credits in the middle of double episodes because people think it is the end of the show and flick over to another channel.
@New Girl – problem is they show the final scene while the credits run at the bottom, cutting it would wreck the whole episode. In the US they showed ep1&2 on the same night back to back and the credits remaining intact, why can’t they do that here?
@ Pertinax
You need to double check who you’re replying to…
Also the point you make about viewers not caring how closely our air times are to overseas ones is incorrect. After late start times, that’s the single biggest complaint I hear, when the topic of conversation turns to TV. There’s no longer even a logistical reason why shows shouldn’t air here very soon after their original airdate. It’s all politics and commercial interests at play.
In this day and age it’s ‘one world’, not lots of isolated markets. Not like back in the 80s when Steve Vizard pretended to be Dave Letterman.
@bazza
With New Girl they would have saved time by showing two episodes back to back and cutting out the starting and end credits. There wasn’t anything noticeably missing from the show but they might have had to cut something to fit it into a PG timeslot. I doubt they would spend the money to cut the show down just so that it would run 1 minute less over time.
Actually most viewers don’t care if a show is shown immediately after it airs overseas. As the 1.5m viewers for Revenge, 1.7m viewers for Downton Abbey and 1m viewers for New Tricks demonstrate. There are good reasons why FTA don’t do it.